For your reading pleasure: Diesel arrested.

[Uncle Joe]

Jeez, you think you know a guy...

Notwithstanding his occasional anti-muslim threads (and I wouldn't blame Amara for having a little chortle at this news) and views about glass and Baghdad, the only thing that struck me as curious about Diesel was his reference to doing legal research for prisoners' rights. I suspected that he was working from the other side of the bars, and I guess I was right.

Getting arrested for firearms offences, though? In America? What's this world coming to? If he was still the racist he was all those years ago, he was a lot more subtle about it. I always took him to be far too smart to dismiss as a simple troll.

The Guns Network dudes appear to be gobsmacked, too...

[Aladdin]

You do know some hellish message boards don't you Uncle Joe?

[Uncle Joe]

I think someone from U75 threw that one up. Wonder if they know yet..?

[Dear Wendy]

Seen "Falling Down"?
From the description Diesel is like that shop owner who in the basement has illegal weapons and Nazi litterature.
I hope they won't soften up his sentence due to age. Such a man deseves to rot up.

[Globe]

Originally Posted by Man Of Kent

A sad reflection on US politics I suspect... seems like the gun has been the solution too often in the past (and present!)

Diesel's "solution" for MLK Jr was not "a gun", but... 1400 lbs of stolen dynamite. That qualifies him not as a John Hinckley type assassine, but as a terrorist, whether the term was in use in the 1960's, or not.

Originally Posted by groovechampion

Am I the only one that thinks this is a complete load of balls?

Originally Posted by Aladdin

Well it could be... but that would be a very serious accusation from Thanatos. And Diesel being a regular visitor it wouldn't be long before he picks up on it. My belief is that it is genuine.

If you think it a hoax? Contact The Seattle Times newspaper. There was a reason I posted that link; want some more?

[Globe]

later...

SEATTLE -- A federal magistrate denied bail Friday for a white supremacist facing gun charges.

U.S. Magistrate Monica Benton ordered that Keith Gilbert remain in custody. She agreed with federal prosecutors who said he was a flight risk and danger to the public; about 100 weapons were taken from his Seattle home. They also said he has a history of flight to avoid prosecution.

Gilbert, who served five years in the 1960s for possessing 1,400 pounds of dynamite in what he claimed was a plot to kill the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., was arrested Tuesday after prosecutors said he sold machine guns to an informant.

Video link: http://www.komotv.com/news/story_m.asp?ID=35278

[Globe]

Originally posted by R. Skinner

The person on the left in that picture is William Heinrich, a fellow Aryan and cohort of Gilbert's. They took approx 30 guns out of his house -- and he is also a convicted felon (Assault and VUFA). Heinrich lived in one of the houses that Gilbert rented, then sub-leased out rooms in. A few years back he was involved in an argument with someone who pissed him off, so he pulled out a knife and stabbed him. A year or two later he was 'defending' one of Gilbert's houses and the police found him packing a pistol - a routine event for him.

Hejna was a 'maintenance person' for Gilbert for some time, living in a few different houses Gilbert ran. A long-term history of Methamphetamine use, and crack addiction. Not a Neo - just a dope-fiend with a .357. Middle-man in the delivery of a pound of C4. Friend of Alen Long...

Long was an enforcer for Gilbert from time to time. Substantial history of violent behavior and heavy Meth user. Middle-man in the delivery of a pound of C4 without tracing agents. Proud of the 88's tattooed to his neck and the Swazi on his leg. Friend of Carter.

Carter was a middle-man in the delivery of a pound of C4, and a friend of several other 'un-named' people who are tied to the fine NeoNazi movement: The Nazi LowRiders.

Let's make this clear: Gilbert used anybody and everybody to promote his way of life. Sure, he'd reduced the Nazi rhetoric on the surface, but not by much - behind closed doors, he and many of his associates shared the belief that Hitler "did a much better job of dealing with problems" than anybody after him. He used "the ******s" in the neighborhood "as camoflage" -- he believed that by having "a few ******s" in the neighborhood, he could always answer the charges against him by saying, "what do you mean? My "daughter" is Jewish and I rent to blacks - see?"

This is a guy who used his son in Seattle to cover some of his gun purchases by using the son's name to have shit shipped but which he took possession of, or to have his son go in to pick up FFL deliveries at the local gun shop -- even though that son is on SSD for mental disabilities. And the son that's in CA found out the hard way: Dad exploited his credit behind his back, such that he wasn't able to rent an apartment due to all the shit his dad had pulled in his name.

Those of you who'd like to stand up and support KG beware: You're painting yourself into a corner. He's NOT your poster-boy for gun rights; he was a danger to himself and others.

Yeah, there are a few small points that the media hasn't gotten right (they're fucked up, too) but they're small points. No, his time wasn't on 'The Rock' but another CA prison. True, the gun on the sidecar is a dummy - but he played it differently when dealing with some people, leading them to conclude otherwise.

They hauled away over 100 BUILT weapons out of Gilbert's house - some in full-auto condition. In addition, he had numerous parts in his home intended for resale -- and building completed, unregistered, and full-auto weapons.

In due time, the rest of the facts will be revealed.

In the mean time, I've left you with an interesting article that I can attest to being 99.5% correct -- I found one untrue item, but the remainder of the facts are known, by me, to be true. How do I know? You figure it out.

Just do me one favor - if you're going to sling mud, just include one answer: Would you "do the right thing" or just be part of the problem?

[Globe]

Magistrate Judge Benton

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
WESTERN DISTRICT OF WASHINGTON
AT SEATTLE

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
Plaintiff,
v.
KEITH D. GILBERT,
Defendant

MAGISTRATE'S DOCKET NO.
CASE NO.
05-66M
COMPLAINT for VIOLATION
Title 18, United States Code,
Sections 922(g)(1) and (o), and Title 26, United States Code, Section 5861(d)

BEFORE Monica J. Benton, United States Magistrate Judge, United States Courthouse, 700 Stewart Street, Seattle, Washington.

COUNT 1
(Felon in Possession of a Firearm)

Between about July 8, 2003, and about March 9, 2004, at Seattle, in the Western District of Washington, KEITH D. GILBERT, having been convicted of crimes punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year, to wit: Receiving Stolen Property and Violation of Section 12353 of the California Health and Safety Code, in Los Angeles County Superior Court, Case No. 318482, on June 10, 1966; Assault with a Deadly Weapon, in Los Angeles County Superior Court, Case No. 294739, on September 26, 1966; and Distributing Methelyne Dimethoxy Amphetamine, a Schedule I Non-Narcotic Controlled Substance, in the United States District Court for the District of Hawaii, Case No. CR73-13266, on September 9, 1974, did knowingly possess in and affecting commerce a firearm, to wit: a .223 caliber SAR-1 AK semi-automatic rifle, serial number S3-09858-2002; a 7.62 x 39 mm SAR-1 semiautomatic AK rifle, serial number S1-57858-2002; a 7.62 x 39 mm automatic AK-47 rifle, serial number 637; and a 5.45 x 39 mm AK-74 automatic rifle, serial number 82-2112826, that had been shipped and transported in interstate and foreign commerce.

All in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Sections 922(g)(1) and 924(c).

COUNT 2
(Possession of a Machinegun)

On or about April 8, 2004, at Seattle, within the Western District of Washington, KEITH D. GILBERT, knowing possessed a machinegun (a 7.62 x 39 mm automatic AK-47 rifle, serial number 637).

All in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 922(o).

COUNT 3
(Possession of an Unregistered Firearm)

On or about April 8, 2004, at Seattle, within the Western District of Washington, KEITH D. GILBERT, knowingly possessed a firearm, to wit: a machinegun (a 7.62 x 39 mm automatic AK-47 rifle, serial number 637) not registered to him in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record.

All in violation of Title 26, United States Code, Section 5861(d).

COUNT 4
(Possession of a Machinegun)

On or about August 18,. 2004, at Seattle, within the Western District of Washington, KEITH D. GILBERT, knowingly possessed a machinegun (a 5.45 x 39 mm automatic AK-74 rifle, serial number 82-21122826).

All in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 922(o).

COUNT 5
(Possession of an Unregistered Firearm)

On oru about August 18, 2004, at Seattle, within the Western District of Washington, KEITH D. GILBERT, knowingly possessed a firearm, to wit: a machinegun (a 5.45 x 39 mm automatic AK-74 rifle, serial number 82-21122826), not registered to him in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record.

All in violation of Title 26, United States Code, Section 5861(d).

And the complainant states that this complaint is based on the following information:

1. I, BRIAN M. DOWNEY, am a Special Agent with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF). I currently am assigned to the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF), Seattle, Washington. I have been employed as a Special Agent for 27 years. As such, I have conducted numerous investigations into the unlawful possession of firearms by convicted felons and unlawful possession of unregistered machineguns. This Complaint is based on my own investigation, as well as on my review of reports prepared, and information provided to me, by other law enforcement officers.

2. I am familar with federal firearms laws and know that it is a violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 922(g)(1) for any convicted felon to possess any firearm that has traveled in interstate commerce. I also know that it is a violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 922(o) for any person to possess a machinegun, a term that is defined to include

any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger. The term shall also include the frame or receiver of any such weapon, any part designed and inteded solely and exclusively, or combination of parts designed and intended, for use in converting a weapon into a machinegun, and any combination of parts from which a machinegun can be assembled.

see 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(23) (adopting definition of machineguns in National Firearms Act); 26 U.S.C. 5845(b) (providing that definition), unless that machinegun was lawfully possessed before 1986.

3. Finally, I know that it is it is a violation of Title 26, United States Code, Section 5861(d), for any person to possess certain types of firearms, unless those firearms are registered to the person in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record. I also know that, pursuant to Title 26, United States Code, Section 5845(a), firearms which must be so registered in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record include machineguns.

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4. In May of 2003, ATF Special Agent Mark Stites developed a Confidential Witness (C-1). Since that time, the government has paid CW-1 a substantial amount of money. I have reviewed National Criminal Information Center (NCIC) and Interstate Identification Index (III) printouts for CW-1. According to thosee documents, CW-1 was convicted of three non-violent felonies from 1978 to 1986. CW-1 has not had any arrests since 1986, and is not currently on probation or parole. To date, all of the information that CW-1 has provided appears to have been truthful. Much of it has been corroborated, and none has proven untruthful.

5. CW-1 reported that, several years ago, he sold a handgun to KEITH D. GILBERT for several hundred dollars. CW-1 also reported that GILBERT had several other firearms and was involved in selling firearms. I have reviewed court documents that show that GILBERT, whose date of birth is December 7, 1939, and whose social security number is 467-56-8836, was convicted of Receiving Stolen Property and Violation of Section 12353 of the California Health and Safety Code, in Los Angeles County Superior Court, Case Nu. 318482, On June 10, 1966; Assault with a Deadly Weapon, in Los Angeles County Superior Court, Case No. 294739, On September 26, 1966; and Distributing Methelyne Dimethoxy Amphetamine, a Schedule 1 Non-Narcotic Controlled Substance, in the United States District Court for the District of Hawaii, Case No. CR73-13266, on September 9, 1974. These crimes are punishable by imprisonment for more than a year.

6. Law enforcement agents asked CW-1 to attempt to purchasee a firearm from GILBERT, and CW-1 asked GILBERT to sell him an AK-74. According to CW-1, on July 8, 2003, GILBERT offered to sell CW-1 an AK rifle for $450.00. Federal law enforcement agents directed CW-1 to purchase the rifle. According to CW-1, CW-1 then gave GILBERT $445.00 That evening, GILBERT met with CW-1. That meeting was captured on videotape by building surveillance cameras. The videotape shows GILBERT removing a rifle from the trunk of his car, wrapping it in a blanket, and carrying the rifle in a plastic shopping bag into CW-1's office. According to CW-1, once in GILBERT's office, GILBERT gave the rifle and seven loaded magazines to CW-1. CW-1 subsequently described the rifle to law enforcement agents as a 7.62 caliber SAR-1 AK semi-automatic rifle bearing serial number S1-57858-2002.

7. After GILBERT had left, CW-1 determined that the magazines provided by GILBERT did not fit into the AK rifle. As a result, according to CW-1, on July 9, 2003, CW-1 advised GILBERT of the problem with the magazines. According to CW-1, GILBERT agreed to replace the rifle with the correct model. According to CW-1, GILBERT advised CW-1 to leave CW-1's office open, so that GILBERT could exchange the rifle for the correct one. CW-1 subsequently left his office.

8. GILBERT's actions later that evening were again captured on building-security videotape. That videotape shows GILBERT parking in front of CW-1's office, removing what appears to be a rifle wrapped in a towel from the trunk of his car, and entering CW-1's office. The videotape also shows GILBERT returning to his car and placing what appears to be another rifle wrapped in a towel back into the trunk of the car, before driving awa. According to CW-1, when CW-1 returned to the office later that evening, the first AK rifle had been replaced with a different AK rifle. According to CW-1, on July 12, 2003, GILBERT delivered a folding stock, a fifle scope, and a .223 ammunition for the new rifle to CW-1.

9. On July 10, 2003, CW-1 described the replacement rifle to law enforcement agents as a .223 caliber SAR-1 AK semi-automatic rifle bearing serial number S3-09858-2002. On July 18, 2003, CW-1 provided the AK rifle to law enforcement. I have examined the rifle, which matches CW-1's description. The rifle has been tested and is functional. An ATF trace of the rifle reveals that it was manufactured in Romania and was sold by Federal Way Discount Guns in Federal Way, Washington, on August 31, 2002, to a William Lee Burdett. I have reviewed toll records for GILBERT's celluarl phone, which is number (206) 295-0540. Those records show a telephone call to Burdett's phone, number (253)833-2814, on July 8, 2003.

10. According to CW-1, on February 19, 2004, CW-1 inquired about purchasing two additional rifles from GILBERT and GILBERT responded "I assume you want those without papers." According to CW-1, on March 4, 2004, GILBERT offered to sell CW-1 two new "Ishmesh" AK-47 rifles for $4,000.00 apiece. According to CW-1, GILBERT told CW-1 that the rifles belonged to an associate of GILBERT's named Sergey Zarodnyuk. According to CW-1, on March 7, 2004, GILBERT telephoned CW-1. During this conversation, GILBERT offered to sell CW-1 an AK-47 semi-automatic rifle, with a conversion template and parts to allow it to be converted to function as a full automatic (i.e. to fire multiple bullets based upon a single trigger pull) for $600.00. GILBERT told CW-1 that this rifle was coming from "Gus."

11. Later on March 7, 2004, GILBERT and CW-1 spoke again. This conversation was recorded with CW-1's consent. During the conversation, GILBERT stated that Gus' weapon already was built, and that all the CW-1 needed to do was to change the operating arm. GILBERT also stated that Zarodnyuk's guns were rare collectors' items and that one was an AK-47 and the other an AK-74. On March 8, 2004, GILBERT and CW-1 spoke again. This conversation also was recorded with CW-1's consent. During the conversation, GILBERT stated that he was waiting for CW-1 to come up with $600.00 for a rifle.

12. On March 9, 2004, agents provided CW-1 $600.00 to purchase the AK-47 rifle that was to come from Gus. According to CW-1, GILBERT subsequently came to CW-1's office, and CW-1 paid this money to GILBERT. CW-1 recorded video footage of their meeting. That footage shows CW-1 giving GILBERT what appears to be a large amount of cash. Later that day, CW-1 and GILBERT spoke again. Their conversation was recorded with CW-1's consent. During that conversation, GILBERT told CW-1 that he had talked the owner of the rifle down from $650.00 to $600.00. The two men also discussed a 5.45 caliber AK-74 firearm.

13. Later that same night, law enforcement agents conducting surveillance observed CW-1 enter GILBERT's residence at 1408 NE 65th Street, Seattle, Washington. There, according to CW-1, GILBERT gave CW-1 an SAR-1 AK semi-automatic rifle in a gun case, as well as a magazine and a template and parts to convert the rifle to be fully automatic. Law enforcement agents observed CW-1 leave the housee carrying an object under a blanket. Shortley thereafter, CW-1 provided a rifle, template, and parts to law enforcemt agents that he reported had come from GILBERT. GILBERT's meeting with CW-1 was recorded with CW-1's consent. During that conversation, GILBERT told CW-1 that GILBERT had not checked to see if the operating arm for the AK rifle was "full."

14. According to CW-1, on March 10, 2004, GILBERT came to CW-1's office and retreived the gun case that had held the gun that GILBERT had sole to CW-1 the previous day. CW-1 recorded video footage of this meeting. That footage shows GILBERT in CW-1's office, and shows GILBERT picking up what appears to be a gun case from a shelf and taking it with him from the office.

15. I have examined the AK rifle provided to law enforcement by CW-1 on March 9, 2004. That rifle is a 7.62 x 39 mm SAR-1 AK rifle that bears serial number S1-57858-2002 (the same rifle originally sold by GILBERT to CW-1 in July 2003). The rifle was tested and oufnd to be functional. The rifle has been fingerprinted, but no prints of comparison value were found. An ATF trace of the rifle purchased from GILBERT on March 9, 2004, reveals that the firearm was manufactured in Romania and was sold by Federal Way Discount Guns in Federal Way, Washington, on December 23, 2002, to Burdett.

16. During the second half of March 2004, GILBERT had a series of conversations with CW-1. Each of these conversations was recorded with CW-1's consent. On March 15, 2004, CW-1 expressed interest in the two AK firearms GILBERT previusly had offered for sale. On March 18, 2004, GILBERT told CW-1 that the price for a Russian-made "Izhevsk" AK-47 rifle was $4,000. On March 26, 2004, CW-1 asked whether he could take photographs of the guns, and GILBERT told CW-1 that the owner of the guns would not permit this. On March 29, 2004, GILBERT explained that the owner, whom he described as Russian, was "paranoid." On March 30, 2004, GILBERT told CW-1 that GILBERT would bring over a book with photographs of one of the AK firearms GILBERT was selling.

17. On April 6, 2004, agents provided CW-1 $4,000.00 to purchase an AK-47 from GILBERT. On April 7, 2004, GILBERT met with CW-1 and paid GILBERT the money. The meeting was recorded, including on video, with CW-1's consent. The video shows CW=1 giving GILBERT money, and GILBERT placing that money in a fanny pack. According to the audio recording, during the meeting, CW-1 asked "how much money is it," and GILBERT responded "$4,000.00." GILBERT also told CW-1 "this is what you get for $4,000, without the bayonet." According to CW-1, GILBERT showed CW-1 a picture of a gun in a book while making this statement. At the end of the meeting, GILBERT told CW-1 that GILBERT would "try to get this to [him] witin 24 hours."

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18. According to CW-1, on April 8, 2004, GILBERT called CW-1 and told CW-1 that GILBERT "ha[d] his goodies." Shortly thereafter, GILBERT brought the gun to CW-1. The meeting between GILBERT and CW-1 was recorded, including on videotape, with CW-1's consent. The videotape shows GILBERT entering CW-1's office with a long, flat cardboard box. It shows CW-1 removing an AK-type weapon from the box and examing the weapon. According to the audio recording, GILBERT told CW-1 to "start it up." Immediately after this, the recording contains the sound of a rifle receiver being worked up. GILBERT also told CW-1 "[t]hat's a rare item" and said "[i]f you want the other one, don't dabble." GILBERT also told CW-1 that GILBERT needed the box back because "it goes to a Colt." Following the meeting, CW-1 provided the AK-47 to law enforcement agents.

19. Law enforcement agents conducted surveillance of GILBERT before and after the meeting. Before the meeting, agents observed GILBERT enter Zarodnyuk's residence at 6515 15th Avenue NE in Seattle, then walk out a few minutes later carrying a long cardboard box and walk across 15th Avenue in the building at 6514 NE Avenue that contains CW-1's office. A few minutes later, following the meeting, agents observed GILBERT reemerge, again with the box, and walk back towards the parking lot at Zarodnyuk's residence. Still a few minutes later, agents saw GILBERT return to his own home without the box.

20. I have examined the AK-47 rifle provided to law enforcement by CW-1 on April 8, 2004. That rifle is a 7.62 x 39 mm AK-47 rifle that bears serial number 637 and a factory mark from the Izhevsk Arsenal in Russia. The markings indicate that the rifle was manufactured in 1969. The rifle has a selcteor lever with indicators on the receiver for semi-automatic and automatic fire. The rifle has been tested by ATF's Firearms Technology Branch and found to operate as a machinegun (i.e., to shoot more than one shot based upon a single trigger pull). The rifle has been fingerprinted, but no prints of comparison value were found.

21. On April 10, 2004, and April 12, 2004, GILBERT spoke with CW-1. Those conversations were recorded with CW-1's consent. During the conversations, GILBERT asked CW1 whether he had shot the AK rifle and said that it was "a beautiful rifle." On May 12, 2004, GILBERT agains spoke with CW-1. That conversation was recorded with CW-1's consent. During the conversation, GILBERT told CW-1 to make a decision on the purchase of an AK-74 automatic rifle that GILBERT said belonged to Zarodnyuk. The price for the AK-74 was to be $4,500.00.

22. On July 5, 2004, CW-1 spoke with GILBERT. This conversation was recorded with CW-1's consent. CW-1 told GILBERT that he had saved $4,000.00 to buy the new AK rifle. During the same conversation, GILBERT also offered to sell CW-1 silencers. CW-1 experssed an interest in buying a silencer for the AK rifle. GILBERT responded that a silencer could be build, but would cost $1,000.00.

23. On August 18, 2004, law enforcement agents provided CW-1 $4,500.00 to purchase an AK-74 rifle from GILBERT. According to CW-1, GILBERT had told CW-1 that after GILBERT was paid, GILBERT would retreive the rifle from "Yuri." According to CW-1 that same day, GILBERT met with CW-1 at CW-1's residence. According to CW-1, during the meeting CW-1 paid GILBERT $4,500.00 to purchase the AK-74 rifle. The meeting was recorded with CW-1's consent.

24. On August 18, 2004, law enforcement agents conducting surveillance observed GILBERT return to the CW-1's residence carrying a green field jacket. According to CW-1, during the meeting, GILBERT removed a black case from the jacket and handed it to the CW-1. The black case contained an AK-74 rifle and a magazine. According to CW-1, GILBERT said that the rifle had been delivered by "Sasha." CW-1 provided the AK-74 rifle and magazine to law enforcement agents. The meeting between GILBERT and CW-1 was recorded, again with CW-1's consent.

25. I have examined the AK-74 rifle provided by CW-1 to law enforcement on August 18, 2004. That rifle is a 5.45 x 39 mm rifle and bears serial number 82-2112826 and a factory mark from the Izhevsk Arsenal in Russia. The rifle has a selector lever with indicators on the receiver for semi and automatic fire. The rifle has been test-fired by the Firearms Technology Branch of ATF. Although the rifle fed more than one round from the magazine based upon a single trigger pull, the rifle's bolt failed to full seat rounds from the magazine unless the bolt was forced forward. Nevertheless, the Firearms Technology Branch colcluded that, the AK-74 comprised the "frame or receiver" of a machinegun and therefore still falls within the definition of a machinegun.

26. I have received training concerning the origin, function, and marking requirements relative to the documentation of the history of firearms. Based upon that training, I have determined that none of the .223 caliber SAR-1 semiautomatic AK rifle, serial number S3-09858-2002; 7.62 x 39 caliber SAR-1 semiautomatic rifle, serial number S1-57858-2002; 7.62 x 39 caliber "Ihevsk" AK-47 automatic rifle, serial number 637, caliber 7.62 x 39 mm; and 5.45 x 39 caliber "Izhevsk" AK-74 automatic rifle, serial number 82-2112826 was manufactured in the State of Washington. As a result, each traveled to the State of Washington in foreign and interstate commerce.

27. I have caused a search to be made of the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record in Washington, DC. That search shows that no firearms, and specifically no machineguns, are, or have been, registered to Keith D. GILBERT.

28. Based on the foregoing, I submit that there is probably cause to believe that KEITH D. GILBERT has committed violations of Title 18, United States Code, Section 922(g)(1) and (o), and 26 United States Code, Section 5861(d).

BRIAN M. DOWNEY, Complainant
Special Agent, ATF

Based on the Complaint sworn to before me, and subscribed in my presence, the Court hereby finds that there is probable cause to believe that the defendant committed the offense(s) set forth in the Complaint.

DATED: this 14 day of February, 2005.

MONICA J. BENTON
United States Magistrate Judge

[Amira]

Originally Posted by Jacqueline the Ripper

Seen "Falling Down"?
From the description Diesel is like that shop owner who in the basement has illegal weapons and Nazi litterature.
I hope they won't soften up his sentence due to age. Such a man deseves to rot up.

i think this is the first and last time i'll ever agree with you

[Man Of Kent]

Originally Posted by Globe

Diesel's "solution" for MLK Jr was not "a gun", but... 1400 lbs of stolen dynamite. That qualifies him not as a John Hinckley type assassine, but as a terrorist, whether the term was in use in the 1960's, or not.

Sorry, point of clarification. Living by "the gun" doesn't necessarily mean that literally, but more that the use of force would be employed...

[Aladdin]

Originally Posted by Globe

If you think it a hoax? Contact The Seattle Times newspaper. There was a reason I posted that link; want some more?

No I don't think it's a hoax. I was actually defending you there, believe it or not

[Dear Wendy]

Originally Posted by Amira

i think this is the first and last time i'll ever agree with you

Oh you have agreed with me before. Your resentment of me is quite a new phenomenon