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Old 23-10-2009, 04:31 PM
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How to find quotes/references?

Anyone know how I can find the book/reference that a quote comes from?

My teacher gave us the quote, 'the creative treatment of actuality' by John Grierson but no reference and I've looked everywhere for one. I'd really like to use it in my essay but obv. need a reference

Anyone know how I can find it?
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sparknotes? lol

I tried looking but i can only find a web blog. :|
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Old 23-10-2009, 08:37 PM
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I know it may sound strange but have you tried to go to a library and see if they have it?
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Haha course I have. Apparently the actual starting point is quite hard to find but its been referenced in soooooo many other article and books. Just thought it would be best to have the original one hmm
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I've had a google, pretty sure the quote could be from:

John Grierson, "First Principles of Documentary." in Grierson on Documentary, Forsyth Hardy (Ed. and Comp.), London: Faber and Faber 1966

ETA: The paper "first principles of documentary" is by Grierson and is just reprinted in this collection, so you would be getting the quote from the original source. Hope your library has it!
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Thanks FireFly. Ive come across that essay so many times but I guess as it is the original article then it matter where it is reprinted. Thanks
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Sorry. Well i hope that you have found it..... good luck with the essay xx
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Thanks FireFly. Ive come across that essay so many times but I guess as it is the original article then it matter where it is reprinted. Thanks
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Try searching google with that term in quotes, like this..

"the creative treatment of actuality"

When you do that google searches for websites with that exact phrase. Or maybe try..

"the creative treatment of actuality John Grierson"
or "the creative treatment of actuality" John Grierson (with his name outside the quotes.
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I've had a google, pretty sure the quote could be from:

John Grierson, "First Principles of Documentary." in Grierson on Documentary, Forsyth Hardy (Ed. and Comp.), London: Faber and Faber 1966

ETA: The paper "first principles of documentary" is by Grierson and is just reprinted in this collection, so you would be getting the quote from the original source. Hope your library has it!
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Thanks FireFly. Ive come across that essay so many times but I guess as it is the original article then it matter where it is reprinted. Thanks

Oops, maybe I should have read through before I replied.

So you found what you were looking for?

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Old 13-12-2009, 02:47 PM
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Oh yea ages ago, 3000 word essay finished and submited on Wednesday. Nervous aboutit as its worth 100% of the documentary theory module...
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He seems to have written it in 1933, in Cinema Quarterly 2.1

http://lmgtfy.com/?q="documentary+is+the+creative+treatment+of+actua lity"+"John+Grierson"

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