Pregnant drinkers/smokers!

[Bullseye]

Ok, so i am flicking through the channels as i do and i come across this news show...might be Tonight with Trevor McDonald but i cant remember, where it was all about how young girls who are pregnant are not stopping Drinking or smoking, they are just carrying on with weekend binges like being pregnant makes no difference. I am totally shocked, i mean i walk around town and see it abit, girls smoking while obviously pregnant, but this show made out it is a serious problem of the current generation. That they are so hooked on binge drinking (i like a drink, dont get me wrong there) and smoking (i have the occasional cigar) that they cant even stop for the sake of their unborn child!

Am i the only one shocked or surprised by how common it is?

[VinylVicky]

I used to go to a rave in sheffield and nearly every week there was a pregnant bird there off her face every week. I remember someone having a go at her once.
Women who drink whilst pregnant, their baby's can be worse from the damage of the drink than say a woman who is addicted to herion.

[JustWondering]

some guy was saying this female pub landlady we pregnant with twins and smoked throughout and one died and people didn't go into the pub after

[Kermit]

It's not ideal, but its their body and their choice.

ITV always over-egg the pudding, 90% of what they show is exaggerated and/or fabricated.

Well how common is it, actually? As Kermit said, ITV aren't exactly the picture of factual and level-headed reportage at the best of times. I only caught the last minutes of the programme where the babies had been born, so I can't comment on the overall tone of it... other than to say I wouldn't take Tonight with Trevor McDonald as being the final word in gospel truth about the behaviour of young women during pregnancy.

I can only really speak from my own experience as someone with a LOT of friends who became mothers at young ages. Not one of them smoked, drank or took drugs once they were aware of their condition so I don't think it is a harrowing indictment of our times or anything of the sort.

It's also worth remembering that while we know a lot more about the impact of cigarettes, alcohol and drugs on an unborn child now... in the generations of women before us they often barely even changed their lifestyle on becoming pregnant. I know we can now claim ignorance on their behalf, but still.

[Fiend_85]

Originally Posted by Kermit

It's not ideal, but its their body and their choice.

But it's not though is it? There's someone else's quality of life at stake, and not in the hazy passive smoker/impact on society from drunken wasters sense. It's very real damage that smoking and heavy drinking does to an unborn.

[budda]

Did anyone see the Tonight show about chemical infected kids, it was one of the best satire shows on TV I've seen in a long while.

[squeal]

My friend was out one night and there was a heavily pregnant girl there who was dancing away whilst drinking heavily, she came over and asked for a light and he said to her do you really that is a good idea in your condition, to which her reply was, fine fuck you.

[sophia]

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[Fiend_85]

I'm not saying I have the right to go up to some pregnant woman and tell her to stop, but as with squeal, if asked for a light, or a fag or a drink I'd say no. Because it is a fact, that if she's chosen to keep the child, she's responsible for it's wellbeing, and smoking and drinking during pregnancy is NOT good for the unborn.

[Disillusioned]

No suitable mother would smoke or drink heavily during pregnancy. If someone can't give up the booze and smokes for the wellbeing of their unborn child their priorities are so flawed that they are evidently not capable of having responsibility of a baby.

It is no coincidence that the pregnant women - often teenagers that will binge drink and chain smoke every Friday night through pregnancy will turn out to make crap mothers. If they knowingly harm their unborn child deliberately disadvantaging their child they quite simply don't care and shouldn't be having a kid. Cut welfare and a lot of these people who are not fit to be parents wouldn't have kids.

[I'm With Stupid]

Originally Posted by Disillusioned

It is no coincidence that the pregnant women - often teenagers that will binge drink and chain smoke every Friday night through pregnancy will turn out to make crap mothers. If they knowingly harm their unborn child deliberately disadvantaging their child they quite simply don't care and shouldn't be having a kid. Cut welfare and a lot of these people who are not fit to be parents wouldn't have kids.

Or they would, and the kids would be even worse off?

[Man Of Kent]

Originally Posted by Fiend_85

But it's not though is it?

Yes. It is.

It's very real damage that smoking and heavy drinking does to an unborn.

Whereas once the child is born it will have the purest water and cleanest air only.

I'm sorry, but I cannot get too worked up about what a mother does to their unborn child in the womb when you consider the risks that it will face after birth.

[Kermit]

Originally Posted by Disillusioned

Cut welfare and a lot of these people who are not fit to be parents wouldn't have kids.

No, they would still have kids, you'd just have kids in even more poverty than you do now.

Since when did this country become infested with healthy-eating Nazis? And since when has it been any of their bloody business?

[Man Of Kent]

Originally Posted by Disillusioned

No suitable mother would smoke or drink heavily during pregnancy. If someone can't give up the booze and smokes for the wellbeing of their unborn child their priorities are so flawed that they are evidently not capable of having responsibility of a baby.

Something which is quite simply, bollocks.

Cut welfare and a lot of these people who are not fit to be parents wouldn't have kids.

This is possibly one of the most cuntist comments I have read on here for ages. The insinuation that these people are on benefits and therefore obviously more likely to be shit parents in beneath contempt.

Obviously the best parents are those rich enough to dump their kids at boarding school

In fact, this one line shows more ignorance of the reality of life than anything else in this thread.